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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 7:57 am | |
| What are you techniques? Do you have any? I tend to try and get few mobs and more aoes in total, rather than trying to get the biggest aoe, kill it, wait for respawn and go again. Is this slower? I don't usually have the patience to run around for 5 minutes to get a giant aoe that takes forever to kill 'cause I have to redo Prevention every 3 seconds.
Sometimes though I wonder if that would be faster. What do you think? | |
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Nighty I don't even know anymore
Posts : 886 Join date : 2009-06-27 Age : 32 Location : Zeh Netherlands
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 8:44 am | |
| Taking smaller aoe's results in better exp over time. Don't make em too small though lol. ;o | |
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Treize MY USB KEY LICKED ME
Posts : 326 Join date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 8:46 am | |
| Imo, Speed's better than quantity.
It depends of the class too. As a Ranger, you can pretty much take any size, and it changes nothing. Gathering is about twice as fast as other classes, and Instead of Prev, when my Hp got under X (which was 4k for me) , I used a Pill and ran until the cool down on the pills was nearly over. | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 8:16 pm | |
| Depends on your class and killing time. If you're a knight and do 8ks, then massive aoes are worth it, cause it takes you like 10 seconds to kill anything.
My formulah for AoE, I take as many as I can and tsill live, then the next AoE (and every concequent AoE at those mobs) take ten less. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 10:57 pm | |
| Hmm,
So, what about the HP or Attack peircing question? What's better? If I'm looking for smaller aoes but higher damage, should I drop my +12% HP and replace it with attack? | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 10:59 pm | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:01 pm | |
| But that doesn't mean anything.
I always seen higher level BPs on kern with +28% Hp Billst/Billporon suits. Only if you were rich enough you had a second one on you with attack, so why would an Aoe BP definitely need attack over HP but most seem to prefer HP? | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:06 pm | |
| BPs get the second best HP point per STA point in the game. And especially since you're using the STR aoe, you can always use the attack boost. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:09 pm | |
| Hmm, you think?
I used +16% Attack over HP on my billporon on kern but people were always like "lol wtf?"
With a red scroll and the + attack I thought my damage was pretty hot. xD | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:13 pm | |
| If I were an AoE BP I would use either 16% Attack or 28% DEF. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:16 pm | |
| Def seems like a waste of money, +7% Def cards are like 40m, so thats 200m on +28% Def, I would rather spend that on +16% attack and upgrading my Angel glove or adding peircings to my Glove or sheild.
Besides, I don't have too much def with Alext, so I don't see how it would be as beneficial as HP would be. A mobs damage can only go so low, right? | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:25 pm | |
| Its only pointless whent he mobs already hit 1s on you. With 28% DEF those princes would be hitting 60s or so on you. And ye wouldnae have died without the eel.
I'd rather have 20k HP with a 2k prev barrier when mobs hit me for 600 max, then 30k HP with the 3k prev barrier but mobs hitting 1.5k max. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:28 pm | |
| 60 damage is highly unlikely.
Without my +12% HP, My hp would be below 10k...
+28% Defense would be like +28% of nothing, which is still nothing
So Nothing + nothing = more nothing on top of less hp = bad idea. xD;
That's how I see it anyway, haha. :] | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:35 pm | |
| But on a Billst which already has +15% HP, it makes more sense. 60 is an example And Defense is the unsung Hero of Flyff, even with less HP (and srsly consider adding more STA ), it will save you.
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:42 pm | |
| I thought we were talking about my Alext set. Adding more sta means less damage, which brings us back to our first point which was: smaller mobs more damage. My sta is fine, what I could probably use is plug+9s. Why are you rolling your eyes at me? I'm trying to get opinions, not to be looked down upon or ridiculed. >_>; | |
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Asajii Moderator
Posts : 36 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Canberra
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:47 pm | |
| I roll my eyes at everyone o: And I like STA, thats always my answer to everything. Because more STA = more DEF and HP = easier job for FSes. You mentioned a Billst, on your Alext - yes HP is better. I was trying to illustrate what I would do if I was an AoE BP. Which I'm not. I've given you my opinion, you disagreed with it, and now I take my leave of this topic | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 25th 2009, 11:53 pm | |
| Sorry, the following faces give me a bad vibe: ... The other one's not there.. it used to be :stare: on gaiaonline, lol. | |
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Nighty I don't even know anymore
Posts : 886 Join date : 2009-06-27 Age : 32 Location : Zeh Netherlands
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 26th 2009, 7:01 am | |
| Defense beats hp for lvleling purposes, especially when you've got prev at your disposal. For alext I don't really know what pierce would benefit you the most, but the lvl 105 sets give 15% defense (at least remingster does). So, imo, go with defense on Billst. | |
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Treize MY USB KEY LICKED ME
Posts : 326 Join date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 26th 2009, 7:21 am | |
| I've had an Aoe Bp before. My Alext was Pierced with Attack, but I was 1vs1 before 105. As for the Pierce on your Billst, I'd suggest you try multiple piercings and see whichever's the best for you.
Hp = Higher Prev Barrier Attack = Faster Killing speed Def = Hp running down slower (and less likely mobs will hit past your prev)
Just a reminder. As a BP, I remember not liking Prev too much, I tried to kept my Prev at all costs. Means I pilled/healed + Heal even if Prev was active.And if the mobs started to crit like crazy, then Prev would just activate and I'd be safe. My suit was Pierced with HP at the time. (120 Sta X str Build)
As a Ranger though, Hp and def are both useless. Rangers get low hp per Sta, and Block/Evasion replaces def. So rangers should Pierce their suits with Attack, since ranger's killing speed is already better than most aoers.
As for Knights, they tend to prefer Hp to anything else, but I've seen a lot with Attack piercings as well. I had a friend, who had a knight, he used a 28% Attack Knighert suit, to compensate with his High sta, But yeah, all his gear was pretty damn good. He had 5k Power stomps too, at level 98, with about 30k Hp, which was pretty damn insane.
I'm totally telling you guys which piercings are best for all class, when no one really asked for them, I guess I'll just stop o_o. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 26th 2009, 8:19 am | |
| Billst/Billporon, Rimyth/Remingster, Psykon/Psykip, Ranerz/The other one, Knighert/Knighz, Blain/Virain, Jesis/The other one, and Elsis/the other one all add the same stats xD;
I realised that before, and the fact that their names are really close to their class requirement o:
Ben - I usually do the same thing. I'll pill/food until prev goes, then run away and recast prevention, then continue. | |
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Kevin Vagrant
Posts : 99 Join date : 2009-08-10 Age : 29 Location : Canada. Narbs.
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 26th 2009, 3:19 pm | |
| - Nighty wrote:
- Defense beats hp for lvleling purposes,
/ridicule | |
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Nighty I don't even know anymore
Posts : 886 Join date : 2009-06-27 Age : 32 Location : Zeh Netherlands
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 27th 2009, 7:48 am | |
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Shaman First Job
Posts : 211 Join date : 2009-06-06
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 27th 2009, 9:23 am | |
| Aoe bp: I used attack piercings on my suit, sta piercings on my aglove and on my shield(Shield was awakened with +14 sta +7 str) and Plug's +9. | |
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Alcohol Vagrant
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-08-05 Age : 31 Location : Gatineau, QC
| Subject: Re: How do You Aoe? August 27th 2009, 9:28 am | |
| Yeah, I think I'm gonna buy 2 plug+9s. That way I can switch from my demols to my plugs when damage is too high and to my demols when it doesn't matter anymore. xD | |
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